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Postby Chris » 02 Mar 2011, 23:22

Figures 4 to 4.5 inches high, cast in lead or some kind of Pot metal. Interested in date and value.
If you recognise these figures or can add any information the owner, Mary, would be most grateful. Email her at

This picture was sent for the website many years ago. Now (in 2011) comes this very interesting reply from Germany:

Hallo Mary

I think you are lucky to have the pair. These hollow cast figures are
rather rare. I got my Punch from USA and Judy from the UK. Both sitting
on separate chairs. A friend of mine at Vienna has two Judys but no
Punch (both lost their ability of nodding). Mine are nodding very

All kinds of these nodders were popular hundred years ago. This was the
time of the famous Vienna Bronzes (Wiener Bronzen), often with ironical
themes (animals in costumes, a cat and a dog under the same umbrella,
negro youth riding on a crocodile), also with exotic themes (arabs,
orientals, north africans, chinese). And as cheaper imitations of the
bronze figures the firms for lead/tin-figures began to produce
hollow-cast lead/tin-figures. Lead was cheaper than bronze. And
hollowcast was cheaper to send in parcels.

one of then famous producers
of solid tin figures and of the hollowcast Knick-Knack (in German Nippesfiguren) was G. Heyde in Dresden. In the book of Markus Grein (Mit Heyde Figuren um die Welt - With Heyde-figures around the world. 2003 -ISBN 3-933124-16-6)which is written in English and German there is the
reproduction of some cataloque-pages with knick-knack. Punch is not in these pages. And so the figures might be by Heyde or may not. I would
call them Heyde-like. They may also have been produced by Britains in
the UK.

The most wanted lead/tin nodder is a round chinaman sitting.
Your figures are made of an amalgum of lead and pewter (perhaps with
some other metal: German "Antimon").

I hope your figures are still nodding. If not this is not easy to
mend.The two sitting on a bench is interesting.

The cold painting is rather bad - but this is not the problem for a
collector, he would repaint them (oil colors). Judy has in her hand a snuffbox. If You know the Title figures on the
Punch-magazine, Mr. Punch is holding a quill (writing pen) in his right
hand. If you find a dog of this kind, you can place him between the two.

Now the crucial question:
I bought my figures as: "old French man smoking a pipe" and "old Welsh
lady", so I got each for about 40/50 British pounds.
Your figures together, expertly repainted, and if they are really nodding, might bring 150, even between 200 and 400 pounds from collectors (fighting against each other at eBay). And if there are not thousands of them at the UK or America - but I do not think so. I add a photo of my figures. And I found the same kind of Punch and Judy (and their dog Toby) recently on the web: it has been sold in 2004 for 335 British pounds at an auction Many thanks for showing the figures and much pleasure with them.

Best regards from an old collector in Germany
Klaus Gerteis.
Picture sent by Klaus.The background is a water-colour painted by him - Belstone
(northern edge of Dartmoor) former free church chapel, later used as a
telegraph office.
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