Time to begin

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Re: Time to begin

Postby Richard Coombs » 12 Nov 2012, 22:10

Cood ..Congratulations on the job.

Now you are going to have money coming in again , I would back Chris Sommerville all the way , and say take a trip over to the Mayfayre when you can afford it .

Powertools ? ..Hell yeah !!

I dont own a chisel ( actually I do its about 4o years old and totally blunt , and great for getting lids off of paint tins )

Get the Expanded frame file ..and Good Luck :-)

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Re: Time to begin

Postby Chris » 12 Nov 2012, 22:18

Yes the kind of wood does matter. I recommend lime wood. But it depends what carving woods are available in the States. Pick up a magazine on woodcarving or whittling off a newstand and see what's available.
Use power tools by all means - whatever you find easier. You'll loose fewer fingers than with chisels. Also you don't have to carve. Try modelling. My own modelled and hollow cast heads have survived forty years of battering. Bryan Clarke, one of the leading Punch figure wood carvers, often used papie mache for his own figures. These can be very strong if made properly.
But if wood is your thing, then by all means have a go. A nice wooden set is very satisfying.

And remember, historically, Punch and Judy profs carved their own figures which were rarely works of art but often had a primitive vigour which came from the carver's lack of sophistication.
Just to inspire you, look at these great figures from a great American puppeteer from around a hundred years ago - these are Punch & Judy used by the Lano family.

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Re: Time to begin

Postby lesclarke » 13 Nov 2012, 00:06

Previous posts here have lots of good info and tips on wood, carving and modelling materials and techniques.

Certainly use any tools available, people who are handy with a chisel still use a saw to remove lumps in the early stages. Personally I'm a fan of Dremel type tools for medium and fine detail.

Wal Kent's secondary figures are basically blocks of wood with the corners knocked off them', they were in fact 'turned' on a lathe to simplify and so speed up production, but they still have plenty of character.

You can set in a dowel for the nose or even a section of broom handle for a fat nose.

Good advice previously given to someone was to start with the Ghost character and get to know your tools and materials, the Clown can also be a fairly simple shape, add extravagant bobbles of hair, a big red nose and a bright paint job.

I like Chris' phrase 'primitive vigour' and if you can get any kind of 'quirkiness' into their look then that is a bonus.
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Re: Time to begin

Postby lesclarke » 13 Nov 2012, 14:36

Found these on the web a while ago, and just rediscovered them, they really appeal to me.

Loads of character, they are the figures of Prof Maurettus of the USA. The Punch and Judy figures have a naive look to them without being crude, and the other figures show a skilled carver.

The Punch & Judy would suit being modelled in papier mache.

linky at... http://www.sideshowworld.com/48-Vent/Pr ... Brown.html

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Re: Time to begin

Postby Chris » 13 Nov 2012, 20:59

Here are some pictures showing someone without money or sculptural talent but determined to have a go. Perfectly workable puppets very simply made.
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Re: Time to begin

Postby Cood123 » 14 Nov 2012, 17:55

You've certainly proven that I need to try to carve them myself, and I've got a few friends who may be able to help me so I'll be starting that soon.

I've got an uncle who used to live in London, and he is going to give me a hand with working out some thing so I can spend a few months there next spring, probably starting some time in February. So I'll be seeing you all at the May Faire.
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